Hey, everybody. Welcome to my guest tonight. I'm Jeff Revilla, your host.
We're talking with a retired U.S. army master sergeant, award
winning author, book Coach, literary strategist,
Dr. Rhonda Lawson. She's the coach, the
guide, the author's friend. Helping stories start
and helping brands extend. Two decades strong.
With a soldier's pride, Rhonda brings the
passion deep inside.
On my guest tonight with Jeffrey,
books and stories taking flight.
Let's light up the night tonight.
24 books and a stage play to
helping nearly a thousand thousand authors push through.
She's got the clarity, the discipline, the drive.
Helping authors everywhere thrive.
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Amazing. I'm so glad you like it.
I gotta admit, they are starting to get out of hand. This was like a
minute, it was like a 92nd production. It was a great
song, so I let it play the whole time. That was a great song. I'm
like, wow, I need to steal that from him. I'll send you a
copy. Most of my guests request a copy of their song, but
Dr. Rhonda, welcome to the show. Well, thank you so much.
Thank you for having me here. So glad you're here. As most of
you listening at home know that this is an origin story podcast where we
go back through the timeline and see what brought Dr. Rhonda to
where she is today. And where are you calling in from right
now? Where do you, where do you call home? Well, right now I live
in Maryland, like right
outside of D.C. and were. You born in Maryland originally
or have you traveled? Actually, I was born in
Mississippi, believe it or not. But I grew up in New Orleans, so I call
New Orleans home. And one of the things, you're kind of a
self described storyteller and you kind of saw that early
on in your life. And do you remember some of your early childhood
stories where you started telling stories to friends or family?
Yes, actually, when I was about 12 years old,
I was always a reader. I was reading everything. I was
reading signs on the wall, anything I can get my hands on, I was
reading. I actually liked
those books on tape. You know, I might be showing my age because
they don't do books on tape anymore. But I would
play, I would play the tape and listen to the story
and read along with it. Or I would play the tape and
listen to the story as I was going to sleep. And I still love a
good sleep story. Sometimes if I can't sleep, I'll put
my earphones on and I'll listen to a sleep story.
I'm usually asleep by the time it gets to the 30 minute mark.
But. But I was. Like I said, I was always reading.
And when I was 12, I decided I wanted to create
my own story. And so I started
writing my own stories. And I never did anything
with those stories. I wish I had. I probably could have been an
author probably 40 years ago. But
it's okay. One day I'll find them and maybe I'll turn them into
some YA stories. But what it did was it
actually set my path for writing. So
my mother saw early on that I enjoyed writing. And she poured
into that, and I really thank her for that. Because
often parents may see their kids
wanting to do something in the creative field. Maybe they want to be
an actress or a writer or poet or what have
you. And their parents will say they need to get a real job.
And my mother never told me that she wanted to
pour into me. She saw that I had a talent for writing and she encouraged
that talent. And I appreciate that. So I often tell
parents these days, if you know that your child has an
interest in the arts, instead of discouraging them, pour
into it. Because you never know what will happen. They may not, they
may never pursue a career in the arts. But knowing that
they have an outlet, something that they enjoy doing, is
sometimes what keeps them going. My own daughter
decided at the age of 12 that she wanted to be an actress.
And that drive to be an actress, she kept that all
through middle school, all through high school. She chose her
college based on being an actress. And she actually
majored in theater arts at
Clark Atlanta University. She graduated cum laude, but
she decided not to go into acting. Once she
graduated, she became a teacher, and now she works for the federal
government. But it was that drive for the
arts that really kept her motivated and kept her in school.
So your, your child may never
decide to go into the arts, or maybe they will go into the
arts and be very successful. I have a cousin who is an
amazing photographer, and that was something that he
cultivated at a young age. I have another cousin who's a chef, something he
cultivated at a young age. So
if you, if you have a child who's interested in the arts,
who loves, loves something, let, let them have that
outlet, feed into it. You just never know what will become of it. And for
me, I did not become. I became an author. But
it's not my only job. I mean, I Went to college. I have three degrees
now. I work for the federal government. I'm retired
U.S. army, as you mentioned earlier. But writing is always
my. Has always been my. Writing has always been my safe space. And
it's something that I'm very good at, and it's something that I love to share,
but that's only because my mother poured into it and helped me to
cultivate it and become better at it. Some of our guests who
have found writing or storytelling at an early age sometimes
take inspiration from TV shows or comic books. You
mentioned books on tape and reading. Were there things that inspired you
at a younger age that brought stories out of you? Was there anything
that kind of unlocked storytelling for you?
I think for me, what unlocked storytelling was my
love for stories. I. I did a lot of reading, as I
mentioned earlier, and as I got a little bit
older, I was reading all of the. The
teen books. I was reading Sweet Valley High. I was reading.
Are you there, God? It's me, Margaret. I love Judy Blum. I've probably read
everything that Judy Blume wrote for young adults. I need to get into
her adult stuff, because I didn't find out until later she actually did adult
writing as well. So I have to read all of that. But
I was into I reading.
So because I had such a love for stories,
that is really what unlocked my passion for
telling my own story. I actually learned how to write because
I read so much that I kind of picked up
on how the quotes were done, how the. Or how
the narration was done. I picked up on
the difference between narration and
dialogue. Dialogue can be written in dialect,
but you still want the narration to make sense.
You still want the narration to be. I call it the King's
English. But you want. You want it to be readable. It doesn't have.
You want to show the people that you know how to write. So
I picked up on all of that, just reading, just reading stories.
And it helped. Like I said, it helped me to build my own talent for
telling a story. And that passion for you continued into
college, too. Did you study English and literature
in college? I did, actually. I
originally wanted to be a lawyer when I started
college, and then I soon realized that was not what I wanted to do.
So I. I majored in English, and
I really fell in love with the arts then because I got to read
just more of the classics. And I
even took a Harlem Renaissance class. And
in the Harlem Renaissance class, I was learning more about black
authors and about the authors who were celebrated
during the Harlem Renaissance. Many of us know about Langston Hughes
or Zora Neale Hurston, but I learned about so many more
authors whom we didn't even know about during that time.
And that awakened my passion even more
for the classics and for many of
our classic black authors who basically set the
stone, set the way for me, the path for me to become an author.
And after college, did you continue this passion or did you take
a little break or a little sidestep you? You did mention the retired US
army master sergeant. How did we go from college
into. Into service? Well,
I went to Loyola University in New Orleans. Wonderful school.
I couldn't afford it anymore, actually, so
about two and a half years. In about two years. And I said, you
know, I think maybe I'm going to sit out. But it seems like. And
it's just my mind, I'm quite sure it didn't happen that instantaneously.
But in my mind, as soon as I made the decision that I was going
to sit out because college had gotten expensive, I got a
call from an army recruiter who asked me if I still wanted to
join the Army. Now to back up a little bit. When I was in
high school, my good friend
said, hey, Rhonda, let's go take the asvab. We can get out of class for
a little while. I said, girl, I don't want to join the Army. She said,
I don't either, but we're gonna. Let's go take the test for a little while.
We can. We have a. An excuse absence from class.
I'm like, well, sure, why not? So we went
to the auditorium and we took the asvab, and apparently I did
pretty well on it because they kept my score. And
I think a couple years later, as I was in
college, whether I was going to go back because college got expensive.
Across town, there was some recruiter who was going through the old
files and ran across my name and
said she did okay on the ASVAB and let me see
if I can give her a call and see if she still wants to join
the Army. And so he picks up the phone, tells me who he
is, and asked me if I still wanted to join the Army. And I said,
sure. I said, I'm glad you called because I was thinking about sitting
out of college. And then you called. And so I
joined the Army. I got the army college fund, I got the GI
Bill, and I got a
great job as a public affairs officer because I'm like, I love
writing. I've been doing all of this reading. I
want to Stay within writing. So when I found out that I could be an
army journalist, I said, I'm taking it.
And so that's the job that I chose. And that's,
that's really how I became an even better writer. Because people don't
realize that army public affairs is one
of the hardest military specialties
in the army. It's hard because writing is just not
easy. I mean, I know some people think all you have to do is just
write a few words down. It's not that simple. And
there were so many people who
we call it recycle, where they, they
didn't pass the course and they had to either start over from
the beginning or find a new job.
You were able to take this passion of writing and you weren't sure about
college. And all of a sudden, through fate or
serendipity or some sort of reason, you were reached out
to by a recruiter and you got to continue
going to college and almost got that. You got that dream job
that you wanted to do, which was writing. And you got a
23 year career out of being a soldier journalist. I think
that's what you referred to it as. Yes, as a soldier journalist.
I thought that I was only going to do five years and then go back
to school. That that was my plan.
But I wound up getting married about three years into my army
career and
I was enjoying what I was doing. I had gotten promoted a couple of
times, so I stuck with it.
And next thing you know, I had done 23 years.
But my love for fiction writing had never waned.
I was, I still enjoyed writing.
So one day, even though I was an army journalist,
and now let me tell you something about being an army journalist. My
passion was to tell the soldier story.
So I was known for writing really long feature
pieces. I would find somebody to write about and I would
write a really long feature piece. My piece sometimes would take up a whole
newspaper page because I wanted to be able to tell people's
stories. My goal was to humanize soldiers so
people didn't think that they were just some robots who were like kill, kill,
kill. That these were people with families, these were people with
goals and passions and patriotism.
And they were, they were a part of our communities. And I felt
like my stories helped me to introduce that soldier to the
world. So I was always writing,
but what I decided to do was I
still wanted to write fiction. So I wrote my
first book. Really, I started writing
that book probably in 1997,
but it just kind of sat around. I didn't know what to do with it.
I didn't know how to get it published. I think I tried sending
it off to a couple of places and nothing really worked out. So
I kind of put it to the side. And then
a few years later I moved. I was still in
the army and I got a new duty station in
Egypt, believe it or not. But just about, maybe less than
a year before I moved to Egypt, I thought I wanted to do something with
my book again. I think I even joined a couple of writers
communities because I wanted to learn more about the.
About the field, about the industry. And
I stayed in touch with these writers communities when I moved to Egypt.
And then, you know, I would just kind of listen to them. I would get
to know some of them and a couple of them I'm still friends with to
this day. This was back in the day before we had social media. This, these
were listservs. So we had. We were basically
emailing each other through Yahoo.
So, yeah, I don't even think there wasn't even Gmail back
then. So that's how we kept in touch
with each other. I remember
around while I was stationed and in
Egypt, I got an email from one of my
former sergeants major who's still a good friend of mine to this day.
And she sent me this message and she said,
rhonda. And she, she never calls me by my first.
My first name. She always calls me Sergeant Lawson. So
I already knew something was going on and she called me Rhonda. And
then she informed me that a sergeant major whom we both knew and that we
both cared about was unfortunately in
a helicopter that was shot down in Iraq. And
I was devastated. I. I cried. I was
so depressed and I don't even know why I was at work that day. I
was. I believe that was a Saturday. I just for some reason
went to my office to, I don't know, check email
or something. I don't know why I went to my office, but
I'm glad that nobody was in the office with me because
I really, I just was really devastated and cried and everything. And I was
really glad I was in there by myself. And
so later that night, I'm laying down and I'm thinking about him and
I'm picturing what was it like
when he was up there. And I pictured him smiling
and making the soldiers laugh and encouraging them.
And then probably when that moment happened, he was still
being a leader. And I wondered, did
he pass knowing that he had done all that
he was meant to accomplish in this world. And when I thought
about that, I asked myself, had I
accomplished all that I was supposed to in this world?
And that night, I decided that I was finally going to
get my book published. And I
remember doing the research. I sent my book
off to probably 11 different agents
that night. And it just so happened that that
listserv that I was part of had said that there
was a company that was looking for new authors.
And I looked up the company. I didn't see any authors who looked
like me. And so I asked my friend, I said, are you sure that they're
looking for black authors? And she said, try.
You never know. And so I emailed
them and I did my pitch.
And then a few weeks later, as I'm getting rejection letter here and a
rejection letter there, I got an email from this company
that said, contract and welcome to Jada Press.
And that was how I was able to get my first book published. And I
was so excited. I'm like, I found somebody
to publish my book, and I was their first African American
authority. And they were so good to me,
taught me a lot about the industry, gave me some tips
on how I could refine my book. And
I was able to do my first book signing while I was still in
Egypt. I had gone home for a few days, or not a few days,
maybe a few weeks, but I had gone home for a few weeks,
and I was able to do a book signing while I was out there. I
was able to do a radio interview. I was, you know,
just able to really get my book out there. And so I.
I owe a lot to this company. The name of the company was Jada Press.
I believe after a while they went by Jada Star.
I'm not sure if they're still around, but they were the company
that helped me to get my foot in the door. So my
advice and my moral. The moral to this story is
don't hold yourself back or don't think that just because
somebody does not look like you that they don't have your best interest
in. Or don't block your blessing
thinking that only people who look
like you are going to give you a chance. And don't
block your blessing by talking yourself out of
things. Because I could have talked myself out of sending my
manuscript to this publisher. And had I
done that, I'm not sure how long it would have been before I had been
able to get into the industry. I don't know if I would have gotten into
the industry had I not taken a chance and reached out to Jada
Press. So I thank God that I did
and it worked out. And now here I am,
24 books later and I'm still in the game.
You're coming off of the, the book publishing and you have this
momentum going. You're starting to inspire others. Is that how
the, the New Movement Book Club came about? Did you start to
collect, get together with other authors and, and start to
build your own movement? Actually that's.
I'm so glad you asked about the New Movement Book Club. And that book club
is actually still in, still in existence.
And so when I was stationed
in Richmond Hill, Georgia,
I had a good friend who was also an author. I love her, I love
her to pieces because we were actually
kind of encouraging each other. And I remember both of us needed to get a
book done one day. So we both said, let's go ahead and
go to Starbucks and we're just gonna sit and write. We. I
didn't talk to her, she didn't talk to me. But we sat there, we drank
our coffee and we wrote. And it just felt so good to be
able to just have some company to write. We don't. That's
the great thing about writing. You don't always have to be by yourself.
But even when you're around a bunch of people, if they all are like minded
and they're all getting their writing done, it just feels good,
the energy. It just feels good having that energy
to where and it motivates you to continue to write. I got a lot of
writing done that day just because we wanted to be able to
be there to support each other through our writing. But to
go back to the New Movement Book Club,
she called me one day, she said, rhonda, we want to start a book club.
Let's be a. Do you want to be a part of it?
We're going to read other people's books, we're going to get together, we're going to
talk about all the things that book clubs do. But we didn't have a book
club in Richmond Hill at that time. So we started it
and I believe I came up with the name New Movement Book Club.
And it was a great, it's still
a great book club. Our first year, we did
In Love with Reading event on Valentine's Day
and we actually got a pretty good turnout for it. Other
authors showed up, we had readers who showed up. We kind of
talked about books, we honored authors.
It was just a really nice. It was a small event, but it was a
great event. We were able to invite authors to
our Book club so we could discuss their books with them. And
I moved away. I wound up being stationed in
Belgium, believe it or not. But
Lisa and some of the other members kept the book
club going. And a couple years
ago, they actually invited me back to help them
celebrate. They wanted to do this big retreat to celebrate.
I cannot believe it's been that long. I think it's been about 20 years.
And they, they invited me to come back
and celebrate with them. And we went to this
cabin in Georgia and just had a great time. You
know, we're reading books, we're playing games, we're having movie nights. We
invited an author to come talk about his
book. And then right after we talked about his book, then they talked about
my book because they wanted to support me as well. So
it was a great time. So. So I'm really proud of
Lisa and all of the other
members who have kept this book club going. And just to see the growth in
the book club and to see the caliber of books that we're
still reading, it's great.
And the community service that they continue to do as a part of the
book club, because it's not just about reading books, it's also about
supporting the community in which we live. And they're still doing that as well.
Yeah, you've gone full circle. Starting
comes about, right? This is, this. Is this the agency
where all these little pieces that, you know, working together with
authors, networking with different authors and, and fans of
literature, you're making all these connections. The
next step is start helping people. Helping people get self published.
Does that kind of bubble up out of this club or
being in association with all these other authors in this network that you're
building? It's absolutely right, because I've
met so many authors through my journey, and I
remember what it was like when I first became an author and I'm looking
for opportunities to sell my book. I mean, I think there's still some people
out there in the world who still owe me money for my books.
But. And, but the thing is, I remember
what it was like to go to a bookstore,
drive all the way to a city because I had a book, a book signing,
and I get to that bookstore and it's been closed down and
the owners didn't bother to reach out to the authors who were coming to do
books, book signings, that it was just closed. So I, like,
I basically drove all the way to the state for nothing.
But these things have happened. There have been times where I've gone
to a bookstore and
the person who was working that day didn't even know that an author was coming.
So I remember those days, or maybe they did everything
they could to support the authority, but the
people didn't come. And now I'm
not saying that every book signing that I did was unsuccessful. I had some
amazing book signings. I've had some amazing festivals that
I was a part of. But I wanted to be able to
support authors and support small business
owners so that they can get more exposure for their
work. And so. And then at the same time, I
wanted to be able to pitch them to media. And a lot of
publicists don't really have a media component. You know, they're.
It's all about social media. It's all about
helping you to market your book. But I also want to help you to build
a brand for your name. So because I had a public
affairs background, because of what I was doing in the army,
I knew how to pitch to media. So I wanted to make that a part
of what I did as well. So when I retired from the army
in 2017, I started meet the World Image Solutions.
And at first the company was supposed to be.
I was supposed to be a publicist. I wanted to be a publicist for
authors as well as musicians and
artists. But I quickly realized that I didn't
like just being a publicist.
I still had writing in my heart. So I
pivoted the company to where I still did publicity services
for people, but not so much that monthly publicity where you pay me
a thousand dollars a month or what have you, and I'm going to, I'm going
to get you into the media. I don't, I don't just do that. I write
press releases. I do press kits.
I edit your. I can edit your work. I have a lot of great
customers, clients who come to me asking me to edit their work.
And I love editing. I mean, it's hard work, but I
love, I love helping them to shape their words
so that they have more meaning, so that the reader
can read that story and get. Get
the true message. Message from what, what the author was
trying to say. I love doing that. I also
love book coaching because it's something that I've done
being, being an army journalist, I'm always. I was
always teaching writing, so I knew how to write. So I, I
brought that component in as well. So that's the reason why the company
pivoted from just being a image consulting company
or a publicist, a publicity
company, to literary and publicity services. I want
to be able to support that first time author,
that person who has a story inside them and they don't know how to get
it out. I wanted to be able to support that business owner
who is trying to position themselves as an
expert in their industry. And I always say that
every business owner needs a book because every
business owner has a valuable story to tell. And every business
owner has an expertise that people are always trying to pick their brains
to get a piece of. But if you put that expertise into
a book, when people ask you how did you do such and such, you can
say, I wrote a book about it, I sell it for $10, I sell it
for 25, and it'll tell you everything you need to know. So
now they're making passive income for their business and
they've positioned themselves as an expert in their industry. So I
wanted to be able to do that with the literary
arm of my company, with the publicity side of my company. I
wanted to help authors like me, the people who were
going out to these book signings and not having a
machine behind them to let people know that they were coming, I
wanted to be able to build
basically an entire publicity kit. So when they try to pitch
themselves to organizations
for speaking engagements, or when they're trying to pitch
themselves to their local newspaper or their local morning show, they
actually have something to show them. So, and
what happens? There are some authors who are going to feel they can do all
of this themselves and their work
is not going to be taken as seriously because they're not presenting
themselves as professionally. But when you have a
professional kit, a professional media kit,
a professional press release that doesn't have a bunch of typos and
grammatical mistakes in it and has improper structure, but a
professional press release, this is going to help
those shows take you more seriously. I had
author who was a celebrity chef and
I pitched him to some talk shows. And the first thing that
these talk shows asked for was
a one sheet and a sizzle reel. If
you, if you're not already, if you don't already have
that in your arsenal, what's going to happen when you want
to get pitched to a major publication or
a major broadcast show and they ask for your
one sheet and you don't have one, or you give them a flyer
thinking that that's a one sheet, that's not a one sheet.
So since I know how all of these,
all of these products should look, and because I work with
media all the time, I know how to craft these
documents to make them professional and to have the information that
the author needs to get the publicity. Excuse
me, the publicity that they need. So I added that to my
arsenal as well. So if you go to my website,
it may seem a little overwhelming. And so I try to organize
things. If you're looking for publicity services, you can look here. If
you're looking for literary services, you can look here.
And then I also have some amazing landing pages
that just brings everything all together. I have a
podcast that I use basically as
a lead magnet because it helps me to meet more authors. And that's how
I've been able to support as many authors as I have through
my podcast. On Monday nights, the Horizons Author Lounge
and Black Authors Matter TV on Tuesday nights that I co host
with Gwen Richardson of the National Black Book Festival.
Between those two shows, I think we're probably
approaching, or I'm approaching
Probably almost 1500 authors between
black authors. Meta TV, we've just reached our
800th guest and
Horizons Author Lounge, which I've been doing for the
last three years. And then
prior to that show, I had my own show then,
which, oh my goodness, I can't. Those are countless.
The authors that I promoted on that show. But I,
I use these shows, like I said, to meet authors. And then
I do offer my services to them. And then what
it does is it helps me to get into more
households each night because of the show.
Then it exposes my services to these
authors. So when they, when they say, you know, I was on Dr.
Rhonda's show and she mentioned her event that she
has coming up, I think I want to work with her. Or Dr.
Rhonda did say that she has. Has editing services.
Let me give her a call back. Or that she does workshops.
Let me talk to her about her next workshop. And
that's how I've been able to meet a lot of my clients
because of this show. As you grow your client list and your network
builds these opportunities to do podcasts and
festivals and TV shows, it just keeps
compounding. You keep meeting more people and building this network.
Where do you see this going in three to five years? Do you see
more conferences or traveling the world more?
How else can you continue to grow this? Well, I'm looking
at doing more speaking, especially workshop
facilitation and panel discussions. I like to
inspire. So I'm looking for more
opportunities where I can spread my message
so it doesn't always have to be a keynote, so to speak. I like
to get down and dirty. I want to do a workshop where we do
some hands on. I'm actually working on a workshop right now
called AI for Authors because there are so many authors who are
afraid of using AI because they think that they don't. They're
not going to have protections for their work or they don't want to be accused
of plagiarism. So I created an
entire workshop on how authors can use
AI as an assistant, not a replacement. You should
never let AI replace you as an authority. But
there's nothing wrong with using it as an assistant to help your.
Your writing efforts. I'm writing a book right now, and I've used
AI to help me to generate character
profiles. So I understand my characters a lot better. I've
helped. I've used AI to help me to define my plot
lines, and I've actually even used it to
help me to design my book cover. But
that's not plagiarism. I'm not
letting the AI agent do the work for me. I'm
doing the writing. But like I said, it
does help you when it comes to the preparation.
So that's one thing I want to teach people. And then you can also use
it to help you with social media content.
I use AI to chop up my shows and to
and to post it on my social media. And it does it all for me.
I don't have to do it all myself anymore. And when I
first started doing my show, I was doing all of this myself. I couldn't keep
up. But now, now because I'm
using AI, I've been able to work a lot more,
a lot smarter instead of harder. So I'm working on that
workshop. I have a number of workshops on
editing, character development, plot development.
I even have a copywriting class that I'm working on as well.
Very nice. And you mentioned spread the word. If there's authors out there who are
ready to spread their word and need that little push or
that extra step, what's the best way to connect with you? What's the
website to hear about your services?
Well, My website is
www.mtwimage
solutions.com. that's I
M A G E S O l u
t I O-N-S.com and then
I'm also on. I'm pretty active on
Instagram. You can find me at Meet the World
Image Solutions. I'm on Tick Tock and I enjoy Tick
Tock because I can be a little bit more creative with Tick Tock. But
you can find me on tick tock at Dr. Rhonda L.
And of course, Facebook. Facebook is kind of like my go to
Only because it's easy to just pull open Facebook and just type
a little message on there. I try to be a little bit more creative when
I, when I do Instagram and tick tock posting.
I'm also on LinkedIn. You can find me on LinkedIn.
Of course, that's more of my professional profile. I
don't, I'm not as creative on, on there.
I'm working on doing a Pinterest, but I have, I
have a Pinterest. I don't invite people to it because it's, it doesn't look
as nice as I want it to look. But I am working on that because
I think a lot of people sleep on Pinterest and they think that it's just
a place to go to get decorating ideas or fashion ideas.
But there's a great writing community on Pinterest and
there's a very specific audience on Pinterest.
And what people don't realize about Pinterest is that
most platforms are designed to keep you on the platform.
Pinterest is actually designed for you to leave the platform
because it brings all of this content together. When you click
on it, you're going to be clicking away from the platform and going to somebody's
website or somebody's social media page
or somebody's blog. That's what Pinterest is there for.
So I'm looking for ways
to just amplify everything that I'm doing. My meet, my
medium and substack pages, my social media accounts,
all of the writing tips that I give. I want to be able to put
all of that onto Pinterest and tap into
that very specific audience that's there looking for great information.
Awesome. Dr. Rhonda, this has been so much fun. I'll have all
those links in the show notes so people can connect with you. Let's
go back to that theme song. She's the coach, the
guide, the author's friend. Helping stories start and
helping brands extend to decades Strong
with a soldier's pride, Rhonda brings the
passion deep inside
on my guest tonight with Jeffrey.
Books and stories taking flight.
Let's light up the night tonight.
24 books and a stage play too.
Helping nearly a thousand authors push through.
She's got the clarity, the discipline, the
drive. Helping authors everywhere
thrive
on my guest tonight with Jeff
bridal. We've got Dr. Rondolo was a
real thriller. Books and stories taking
flight. Let's light up the light
tonight.